Jay (35:26.746)
So is that strobe connected to, like is it triggering off of the shutter? Or is it just kind of strobing all the time?
Scott (35:36.382)
You know, in that specific case, I think what he has is that strobe has a sensor on it and it detects the flash from the strobes that are connected to the camera. So when it detects that flash, it fires it off.
Jay (35:51.742)
Got it, interesting. Yeah, because I was curious if that's, because obviously on the surface, you can set up as many lights as you want and they can be remotely triggered, right, through a frequency.
Scott (36:00.746)
Yeah, this is what mine work. Yeah, when they're not underwater, I have Godox strobes that communicate with Wi Fi. You know, that's not going to work underwater. Yeah.
Jay (36:07.798)
Right, right. Exactly. Yeah. But that, but under what I mean, you, there are transmitters, right? So you can transmit information from one source to another source, right? So you've got a lot of these area integration transmitters and receivers, like for example, you know, if you're diving sheer water gear and you know, so your, your Pertix can pick up an AI, right? That is transmitting data.
from the first stage and that transmitter to from your buddy. You can't actually, if you set it up, you could actually transmit from multiple. Like I've heard that before and I'm not endorsing this at all, but I've just heard like, you know, parents that have kids that dive want to like monitor their, their kids gas. It's like, you know, just swim up and grab the SPG. Come on. You know, but, but if you, I guess if you're that, that point, you know, and they said, can I put a transmitter and then have that transmit to my.
Scott (36:36.054)
from your buddy.
Scott (36:40.301)
the
Jay (37:06.962)
And to me, I just think like, oh my gosh, like you already have so many other things going on in your mind at that point, like making sure which tank is which, like, you know, monitoring the gas. I mean, maybe it's not that hard, but I've heard of people doing that. And so, yeah.
Scott (37:12.87)
Yeah, you should be monitoring your own gas, yeah.
Scott (37:20.042)
Well, I know a couple that does that, but they're always only diving single tank. But they can see each other's gas. And they're just diving on shallow reefs and stuff.
Jay (37:24.495)
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's interesting.
Yeah, so it's interesting when it comes to photography, like, have you seen any of that technology where you're actually having strobes fire based on transmission, not based on flash?
Scott (37:41.082)
It's pretty simple. A lot of strobes, even like strobes that aren't meant for underwater. A lot of strobes have that already built into them. It's just a little sensor and you can set them up to be what they call slaves. It's where when it, you know, detects a flash, it'll itself will fire in that instance. It works better with Wi-Fi though, because you have a little controller and you can set them all up. That's what I have, but it's for topside, like I said.
Um, the underwater stuff, I haven't seen anything like that. I know Keldan, uh, which are like constant video lights. They're not strobes. Uh, Keldan has, uh, lights that can be controlled remotely. Um, so you can play some other, yeah, you can play some other of the cave and you can, you know, control them remotely somehow. No idea how it works. Um, but, uh, I know this one, uh, Natalie from under the, under the jungle uses.
Jay (38:08.494)
when you're taking pictures of mermaids.
Jay (38:20.822)
Underwater? Wow.
Jay (38:32.874)
Yeah, no, very cool. Yeah, like I said, I'm a dunce when it comes to photography, so I get to learn alongside of you or from you. That's interesting. Okay.
Scott (38:37.151)
Mm-hmm.
Scott (38:41.898)
Yeah, and myself, I don't have a whole lot of experience shooting with strobes to begin with, much less multiple strobes. I use video lights. It's pretty much what I've always done. And that's for me is as simple as turning it on, setting it down, and swimming away from it. I don't have any sort of remote control. You know, I'm pretty basic as far as gear like that is concerned.
Jay (39:04.007)
Now, is there a reason for that? Is it, is it, uh, money? Oh, money. Ha ha ha.
Scott (39:06.234)
Money. Yeah, yeah, these keldian lights that I was talking about earlier. I mean, these things are like in excess of $2,000, maybe even $2,800 each in some cases. They're pretty pricey.
Jay (39:17.549)
Wow.
Yeah, I think you look at a diver with like, awesome photography rig and lights and a rebreather and you go like, man, there's like 30 grand, yeah, a hundred thousand dollars of swimming fast. Oh yeah, exactly. Which again, there's no knock on that at all. I think like it's over time, you build your kid out. But I think one of the things that has kept me
Scott (39:33.398)
It's a hundred thousand dollars swimming past you, yeah.
Jay (39:49.482)
away from photography other than, you know, an episode, the first episode we did together. If I don't enjoy editing the videos, then I probably will never get into it. But I think it's also been like, okay, do I want a photography rig or do I want a rebreather? It's like, I want a rebreather first. So there's only so much money I have. Yeah. Or do I want, you know, my scooter, which hopefully comes in a couple of weeks, you know, like, so it's kind of like the prioritization of limited cash.
Scott (40:07.09)
You probably want to rebreather, yeah. Yeah, exactly.
Jay (40:19.162)
plus what do I want to spend that cash on? So yeah, I've seen a couple of those divers who are just like, whoa, that's a lot of cash walking by there, like man, that's a lot of gear. That's awesome for them.
Scott (40:31.954)
Yeah, to put this into contrast, when I've shot with multiple lights, I use these, uh, these, uh, really bright dive lights that are meant for shooting video. They have a really wide, really wide beam. And that's what you want for a video or photo. If you're using video lights to shoot photos, you can do that. And that's what I've always done. Cause I like to have the option of doing both in one dive. You know, I can take a photo. I, my video lights will light it up just fine, but it can also shoot video. I have that option.
Jay (40:52.922)
Hmm, I see.
Scott (40:59.47)
course your video lights will never be as bright as strobes. So you just have to get really bright video lights and kind of compromise. But I've found these really cheap ones on Amazon. It sounds terrible. They're only $60 each and they're about 20,000 lumens. They don't burn for very long, but they'll get you through a few photos. So if you know, they're so cheap, you can just order a handful of them and you know, you can stage those everywhere that you need to.
Jay (41:14.341)
Wow.
Scott (41:28.462)
And it works pretty well for that now on my actual rig. I have better lights But I don't like to mix the good quality LED lights with the cheap ones from Amazon so, you know, you're getting a you'll notice you'll notice in the You know after you edit everything in post, but yeah, so when I'm some Yeah, you know like a different shade of the different colors slightly, you know, and maybe everybody doesn't notice it I noticed it and bothers me. So
Jay (41:47.918)
like one side of someone's face will be brighter than the other side type of thing.
Jay (41:54.254)
Yeah.
Scott (41:57.986)
I just like to make sure whatever I'm using, it all matches.
Jay (42:01.462)
Yeah, interesting. Yeah, and that's where probably you, you get some, some brand loyalty from photographers is exactly that matching stuff is I'm using X light. So I have to buy another X light. And that's funny. It's the same thing as a lot of things. It's like Google Home versus Apple Home versus Alexa, right? It's like, it seems like everyone's one or you don't mix those things. Because they you Yeah, yeah.
Scott (42:23.179)
Yeah.
Scott (42:28.671)
Yeah, no, that's weird, yeah.
Jay (42:31.558)
So, and unfortunately we went a long time ago, this is a total sidebar, but we went a long time ago, we switched over to Google Pixels because Google had come out with this thing called Google Fi, which was their network. And I was traveling a ton for work at the time internationally and so I would, literally with my Apple phone, I would land and I would turn off my phone, I put it in airplane mode because you instantly get hit with roaming and data and all this, you just.
Your phone was useless unless you had Wi-Fi. And I remember there was one time where, you know, I was looking for this meeting place we were supposed to be at and la la, and it's so frustrating not to have access to your phone, any, anything without Wi-Fi. And I was so desperate that I saw this like free Wi-Fi with purchase from a McDonald's, I think it was in Australia and Sydney. So I went in and bought a thing of French fries, a small French fries to get the Wi-Fi code.
And the wifi didn't work and I still couldn't find a map to get to the meeting. I was like an hour and a half late to this meeting. It was a disaster. So I got home from that trip and I'm like, we have to solve this problem. And Google, if I had come out was just new at this point. And they'd come out with this whole thing where they're going to, you know, put weather balloons up and rotating through the atmosphere. You're never going to be without service. It's basically the same price for data everywhere in the world. And after a hundred bucks, you pay for data.
in a month, the rest of it's free. And I was like, this sounds too good to be true. One caveat was you have to switch to Android. And it was like super hard for me to make that switch. So we had everything else Apple. So we made the switch years ago and now we're switched all the way over to Pixels, right? Pixel phones and Google Home and everything's kind of Google now. And now we want to switch back to Apple. And we're like, yeah, but that one switch to iPhone, you know, because we were ready for that.
Um, because all our friends and, you know, FaceTime and family and all that stuff was so much easier that way. That one switch triggers a thousand other switches of how we've automated our house and things like that. So anyway, it's the same, same thing with photography, lighting, anything else. You know, it's, it's.
Scott (44:38.838)
Haha.
I get it. Yeah. And for me, I'm 100% Apple just because all my computers are Apple. So I want my phones and I want the tablets and everything. Of course, I use a lot of Adobe, which works pretty well on the iMacs and the MacBook Pros. So I think that's why I've always gone Apple.
Jay (45:02.042)
Are you part of the creative cloud now? Creative suite though, but yeah.
Scott (45:04.126)
Yeah, yeah, I have the that's what I pay for. Yeah, it's kind of expensive. It's not it's not cheap
Jay (45:07.691)
Yeah, that's, that's funny.
Jay (45:11.786)
It isn't, because I remember back in, I mean, I've been a designer for a long time, and back in the day, you download, you could buy the software, it was like 100 bucks, and you bought the software every year. Yeah, yeah, and then I had a buddy who was really good at, I don't know, pirating things, and for a minute there, he was able to get whatever you wanted to download programs, but now it's all cloud-based.
Scott (45:21.942)
And that's it, that's all you needed to do. Yeah, you have it forever.
Jay (45:40.818)
access with a monthly fee, which makes sense for their business model for sure. But yeah.
Scott (45:41.707)
Yeah.
Scott (45:44.958)
And for their updates and everything too. But yeah, there's other stuff you could do like photography wise. Like if you're editing stills, I don't think anything's going to be better than Adobe. As far as editing video, there's definitely cheaper options that are just as good. A lot of people use DaVinci resolve, which has a free version. And it's pretty capable. I mean, they've, they've edited a entire cinematic movies that, you know,
fully commercial, you know, well produced movies with that. And it does just about everything that Adobe Premiere can do. It's just, if you want the full version, of course, you have to pay for it. But the free version is still it's still pretty capable.
Jay (46:30.426)
Yeah, I'm a big advocate for the tools that you're going to use on a consistent basis. Like get the right tools. It's kind of the same thing. You're going to go dig in the yard. You know, it's so much harder to try and accomplish something without the right tools. So it's the same thing. Like go get the right tools. And if they cost money, like pay those creators for the tool that you need. I think the trap you can get into is buying.
Scott (46:38.614)
Mm-hmm.
Jay (46:59.798)
either duplicate tools or tools that you're not gonna use and then you're just kind of throwing money away. So like, for example, your money's well spent in Adobe because you're utilizing that tool and multiples of their tools, right? Every day. Yeah.
Scott (47:10.89)
Yeah, keeping it all in their ecosystem. I like that. I like how everything can just be transferred over from one platform to another.
Jay (47:18.23)
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think the same thing comes to audio and I think the same thing when it comes to graphic design. Although I've gotten away from the Adobe Suite, which is interesting and was just revisiting it a little bit for their audio tools. But I ended up going a different route for a while with a program called Sketch, which I really enjoyed for design from a vector design perspective. And it was kind of the new
newer thing on the block a while ago, and I enjoyed it. And it kind of pushed me out of the Adobe ecosystem. And now I'm kind of going back to the Adobe ecosystem for some of the other tools they have. So like I said, I'm a big advocate for, you know, spend money on the tools that you're going to use, just don't buy a bunch of duplicates and hack together free versions, because it just creates a ton more work for you if you can just pay, you know, the money that you, if you have the money to pay.
Scott (48:15.982)
Mm-hmm. I agree if you're gonna do something go all the way, you know
Jay (48:16.174)
go for it because it's life's easier. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Like, like, you know, you're going to get a bathroom, make it a scuba bathroom. Like that's, that's so much go all the way. Don't go halfway right.
Scott (48:21.705)
Yeah.
Yeah. Hahaha.
Scott (48:28.475)
Let's start everybody get a rebreather if you're gonna scuba dive just go rebreathing
Jay (48:33.266)
I've heard I've heard people like there's this big thing about like people that are starting out. I think it's more popular in Europe than it is in the US. But when you're buying your first kit for diving, like you're out of your open water, that a lot of people go out end up buying a full set of doubles to start with. But then they break the doubles down or they don't assemble them. But then they have the valves in the manifold for later type of thing.
And that that's a very popular kind of sales technique. Um, and I don't think it's a bad idea. I actually think it's a, it's a, it's a good idea. It saves you money in the long run, to be honest with you, because you're not buying new valves and things, but it's an interesting concept, right? Yeah. So why, why not, you know, why not just start with the open water rebreather? Like.
Scott (49:04.426)
Yeah, I can see that.
Scott (49:22.373)
haha yeah for the record I'm completely joking about that but uh haha I feel like I just killed 20 people by saying that
Jay (49:25.534)
Yeah, me too. Me too. Like, why not start open water with like, rebreather and scooter? Like, and why not just, you know, run the entire open water course with a blindfolded mask and on a line? Like, just, just start that way. And then you'll really weed out the people that want to dive versus the people that are gonna, you know, exit out of the industry quickly. Okay.
Good, so I think some of the, I wanna capture this photo takes a lot of planning from a rig perspective, a lighting even time of day and environmental perspective and there's ways to accomplish that, which is awesome. What about we're going to a place we've never been before, right? And we're really trying to document what we find. How do you plan for that? I mean, you know, let's just start from like,
Scott (50:15.661)
Yeah.
Jay (50:21.702)
It's never the case that you know nothing, but let's just assume we know nothing. Like when we went into the Frio, for example, together, and we did that little expedition, we knew it was a riverbed, right? And we knew generally that it was going to be a riverbed and possibly we would find vents, which we were looking for in some ways, so there could be flow. But we really had no idea what
possibly could be awaiting us in that dive. Yet we wanted to capture photo and video of what was under there, to be able to bring back. So how do you plan from a photography perspective in kind of the unknown environment? What are you bringing? What are you gonna, are you bringing those cheap $60 Amazon lights? Are you bringing the wide angle lens, the macro lens? Kind of how are you?
Scott (51:12.337)
Haha, yeah.
Jay (51:20.058)
How are you planning for those dives?
Scott (51:21.474)
Ironically that was when we did that was a trip when I borrowed Jacob's big blue lights, which is what inspired me to buy my own my own set and No in it on a trip like that Like the way I would plan a trip like that is to I would go wide because you're trying to document the environment There's all sorts of fauna there that you probably want to document too But that's unfortunately gonna have to involve a separate dive where you're set up for macro
Maybe if you want to shoot all those red throated darters or you know, whatever might be living there that's a little tiny fish. Maybe there's salamanders there. I doubt it. But yeah, if there is any sort of micro fauna, that's going to take its own dive. But you probably want to start with wide so you can document you know what that environment looks like. Like you said, if you find vents or you know, even an opening, you know, you're gonna want to gonna want to shoot wide for that.
And the coolest thing is to take one of the divers that's with you in your group and frame like a really good composition of this beautiful place that you found. And you could use that diver as a method for showing scale. And that's one of the things that I really like to do. In landscape photography, they call it a little person, big world. Basically like a.
Jay (52:42.636)
Hmm.
Scott (52:43.198)
a mountain or a hilltop with a little guy standing on top of it and kind of shows you how big that environment is. You can do the same thing underwater. Uh, same with those, that split shot that it took there in the Friro river where Shung Fae is, is over the edge of that little drop off. And then you see the valley behind them up on the top side of that photograph. Um, I really liked that one, but that's how I personally would, you know, would prepare to go into an environment like that. There are people that love macro and
and specifically only shoot that. So I can see why some people would choose to go macro instead, but for me, if I'm experiencing a place for the first time and we don't even know what's there, I would personally go wide.
Jay (53:23.586)
Yeah. And I think you bring up an important point is, is if you're able to, which is not always the case, but if you're able to in the expedition planning plan multiple dives. So for example, our dive in that Frio was like two and a half hours straight, like until we hit the hit the end and turned around. Right. So it wasn't really like we could plan to stage a bottle switch and gear switch at the end of that line, because there's nothing there. Right. So it was like
Scott (53:40.597)
Mm-hmm.
Jay (53:52.334)
we have to go back to where we started, but we could have planned multiple days. Right. And so like, you know, some of the thinking there is to be able to do a first dive with like a GoPro or something and, and just go through and say, well, what would be interesting? What do we want to document? You know, review that video that night or at the end of those dives and be able to say, okay, this is, let's do a macro dive next, because these things I think are really important to capture.
or let's do a wide angle dive and plan some of these shots out. Cause then you have a camera that you can review that isn't necessarily, you know, you're shooting the video in order to share it, but you're shooting the video in order to inform your next steps. Right? So if you can do something like that, um, which is not always possible, then that's, then it's great, right? Then it's great to be able to make a really strong plan for how you're going to approach documenting that place. But,
But things like, you know, when we discovered the truck, the bottom of the lake, you know, there's the, there's no planning for it, right? We had no idea it was there. And then all of a sudden, hey, what's that thing?
Scott (54:54.698)
Yeah, yeah, you can't plan for that, you know. Yeah. And in that case, a GoPro did an excellent job. That's all you needed. It was, uh, it showed what it was, you know, that it was there. Um, you can hand that video around. People can ID it and be like, Oh, that's an 87 whatever, you know? And, um, that, that was a pretty interesting dive when we found that truck.
Jay (55:03.619)
Yeah, exactly.
Jay (55:16.078)
Yeah, why don't you tell the story? Because I don't think it's been told yet on the show.
Scott (55:19.634)
Yeah, no, so that that's an area in Canyon Lake. I'll just go ahead and blow up the location. It's undiveable right now because the lake is so low. It's really we tried. We dove it the other weekend, but the lake was so low. We had to literally climb down some pretty sketchy rocks just to even get to the water. And, you know, this is what back mount doubles and everything. It wasn't too much fun. The water level definitely needs to be higher for this to be enjoyable.
But it's a really cool place otherwise. When the lake is filled to the level that it's supposed to be at, what you're looking at is kind of a peninsula that sticks out in the lake. And on one side of that is going to be like a really shallow beach that everybody swims on. And it's just a nice, gentle slope. On the other side is just a sheer drop-off that goes underwater. It's all limestone.
Before it was a lake, the Guadalupe River runs through there and carves out this kind of canyon, canyon-like feature that created all these beautiful limestone overhangs. And it's really cliffy, a lot of grottos. And the most fun part about this dive site is when you get to the bottom of that, it's just filled full of these dead trees. It's all pecan and oak trees that are still there from how old is the lake, 60 years?
Jay (56:40.166)
Mm-hmm, something like that.
Scott (56:40.594)
And, uh, yeah, they're all still there. So you have this really spooky looking underwater forest, uh, that's at the bottom of these cliffs with all these, you know, real beautiful features. And, uh, it's a place that I discovered a few years ago. I didn't personally discover it, but I discovered it for myself a few years, a few years back and really thought it was a cool dive site. And I've always enjoyed taking people there. And, uh, when Jay started getting the group together, it's like, oh, I got to show these guys this spot.
You know, they were probably really enjoying diving in this really unique location. And Jay, I'm not sure. Was that like your second dive out there? Or was that the first time you dove out there?
Jay (57:17.07)
Yeah, something like that. Now I think it's second time, something like that.
Scott (57:20.19)
Yeah, second, second or so. But yeah, we were just doing a, um, you know, kind of a routine dive. And, uh, this was towards the beginning when we found this truck, but we just kind of dropped down and, uh, I think I was laying like some sort of line for surveying and at the bottom of that spot, uh, the truck was just right there. And I've dove there a lot and I've never seen that truck before. Uh, but I think what happens is the thermocline kind of will adjust, you know, as you get deeper into the summer, the thermocline will get lower.
there's always a cloud of silt that hangs out right where the water changes temperature and creates like a little layer of fog that you can't see through and It was low enough at that point where you can see the truck and I wasn't the first one that saw it everybody that Was diving with me found it first but yeah, everybody just kind of surrounding this truck shining their lights on it and spent a lot of time looking at it and just The reason why it's so interesting is because you have to wonder it's like why is this truck here? There's
No roads nearby. How did it get here? It's at the bottom of a, what, a 60 foot drop off. What's in the glove box? Yeah. It looks like it's from the early 90s. And I'm sure it was just some drunk people, maybe. I don't know. Maybe they forgot to put on the parking brake and it rolled down the hill up on top of the cliff. I bet it was an interesting afternoon though, whenever, you know, however it ended up in that lake. But yeah, we couldn't see the license plate. It was...
Jay (58:22.142)
Mm-hmm. What's in the glove box was my thought. Ha ha ha.
Scott (58:47.202)
completely buried and It's been there so long that the interior of the truck is completely filled full of rocks, too So you couldn't open up the glove box or anything like that But we've made plans on going back And I've been back a lot of times after that It's just that the visits never good enough in that one spot to you know Really do any work on that truck and I've been talking to a lot of people about it Since then and a lot of people that I know have also found that truck either before or after we've been there
And, uh, it's just kind of interesting though. It's kind of one of those little urban legends, you know, what, why is this truck here, how long has it been here? I just, I would love to, I would love to just, you know, know the story behind it. No, at least know who it belonged to and how long ago it was lost.
Jay (59:23.383)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jay (59:33.846)
See, I think if you knew it would take some of the mystery out of it though, because we could say like, you know, it was from the founder of Bucky's, you know, and he had a argument with his founders, you know, whatever, you can create it whatever story you want. Like, it'd be awesome.
Scott (59:36.982)
It probably would, yeah.
Scott (59:43.05)
You know, it was probably the typical we stole this truck, we joy, you know, took it on a joy ride and ran it into the lake so we don't get caught. It is probably the typical thing like that, to be honest.
Jay (59:54.842)
Yeah. Well, and that wasn't the only truck you found because I was, I was on that, but I wasn't on the other one. Um, because you guys found a whole, whole nother truck. I wasn't on the one that actually got, uh, yanked out by the police. So tell that story too, cause that's interesting as well.
Scott (01:00:00.382)
Oh wait a minute, you're right, you weren't on that one. I get all these dives blended together, yeah. I don't-
Scott (01:00:09.982)
Yeah, so I was on a dive with some other dive buddies and we were. Yeah. I don't want to mention names on this one, but so with some individuals came across this truck, the individuals as with didn't want to have anything to do with it because it's pretty obvious why it was there is definitely part of a crime. It looked really suspicious because it was upside down.
Jay (01:00:16.41)
Some of our team, right? That's the whole team. Yeah, exactly, yeah.
Scott (01:00:37.598)
All the fabric and everything was still in the seats the truck looked really fresh like it wasn't there for very long and Me being the curious individual that I am, you know wanted to learn a whole lot more about this So I came back with another friend of mine that is all about it He has a YouTube channel too. And you know, we both thought well, we'll just make videos about this It'll be a lot of fun. Well, you know use each other's footage and You know for us cinematic nerds, we love that
you know, multiple camera angles. Um, but, uh, so we came back the next weekend. I came back with my other friend and, and that's what we did. So, uh, we pulled up to the parking lot. It turns out you're not allowed to dive there because it's an active boat ramp. So a police officer stopped us on our way to the water and told us that we couldn't dive. And we explained to them, it's like, Hey, look, we're here because we found a truck last weekend, I guess, as we're diving illegally.
And it's definitely stolen. It's definitely not a part of this old dive park. That's kind of off to the side of where the boat ramp is. And, uh, he was pretty interested. He's like, okay, I definitely, you know, he was telling us, he's like, I definitely want to, you know, know more about this. So I'll go ahead and stop the boat traffic. I'll let you guys go down real quick. Just go down quick enough to see the license plate number. If you could bring back me the plate number, um, that'll be amazing. So we did that. We went down and.
Um, got the plate numbers, brought that info back up to the police officer. And he went over to his car, called it in on the radio and, uh, told him that it was definitely reported stolen. And it was report reported stolen two years before that date. Um, two years before last August. So I guess, you know, whoever stole it ditched it in summer of 2020. Um, that's what I'm assuming.
Jay (01:02:19.61)
Wow.
Scott (01:02:26.278)
And you can tell just by the way it was sitting there that they just, they, they ran it straight down the boat ramp. And I guess it's swamp full of water, drifted for a little bit and sunk, you know, in about 30 feet of water. It wasn't, it wasn't very deep. Um, but yeah, when they told him it was stolen, he, um, he got real excited. He called in what they call a heavy rotational, I guess, which is a type of truck, like a huge tow truck. Um, and they, they backed it up.
to the boat ramp, they're like, okay, now you guys got to go back down there and hook up the chains. Professional divers or anything do this, they just had us do it. And we had a blast though, it was so much fun. We filmed the whole process. I even had my drone up in the air, you know, as we're in the water messing around with it. And so we swam the chains out there, hooked them up, and they ripped that thing out of the water right there that afternoon.
Jay (01:02:58.771)
Exactly. You're not salvage divers.
Scott (01:03:21.806)
And we got to look around in it, you know, as they pulled it out. And you can look in the floorboard of the truck and you'd see how they rigged up the cables to push the gas pedal down, I guess, so they can, you know, have it run itself into the water. And, uh, there was an ID inside of it too. There was a driver's license inside the glove box and they contacted the owner. He didn't have insurance on it. So we know it was not, we know it was not insurance fraud and he didn't want it anymore either. So they, uh, um, they, they trashed it.
Jay (01:03:31.204)
Hmm.
Jay (01:03:45.222)
Ha ha ha.
Scott (01:03:51.35)
But yeah, I just thought that was a pretty fun, fun way to burn off an afternoon, I guess.
Jay (01:03:56.806)
There you go. Yeah. See if photography pays off, you become a. Unsolved mysteries diver. Yeah, exactly. Who episode shows up? Well, good. I mean, this has been fun. I think, I think, uh, there's obviously tons more that you can cover, but I think planning for the unknown is always planning for the unknown, you know, take, take what you, I always kind of say, I'd rather have it with me, not on the dive, but at the dive site. Then not.
Scott (01:04:03.972)
Yeah.
Jay (01:04:26.546)
And cause you never know. And so it's always that try it, you know, do, do an extra, you know, quick run where you're figuring out what the plan's going to be and then go get the right gear, bring that in the water and do the dive. I think what you want to avoid. And I would, I think Scott's saying the same thing here is don't take everything under the water, right? Don't bring the dome port and the, you know, macro and the, you know, and 17 lights and
Scott (01:04:50.87)
Second rig with the macro lens, yeah.
Jay (01:04:55.322)
you know, I think you want to bring what you need for the dive. And if you don't know what you need, then either do a quick, you know, look dive, a dip dive that can actually tell you what you need or, you know, bring make a choice, bring the wide angle, as Scott was saying, and, and make do with that, you know,
Scott (01:05:14.486)
And there is a solution. There's a solution. You can use what's called wet lenses to go down there with both. You can flip a macro lens on top of your port and then you can flip that over and put a dome port on top of that. It does have a layer of water in between the lens and the actual port. And some people like that, some people don't, but it does give you the chance to go down with both. I don't use that equipment. I like to shoot, I like to always have the option of shooting split shots and you can't do that with wet lenses, but yeah.
For all you photography nerds that are screaming to yourselves right now, what about wet lenses? I just wanted to mention that real quick.
Jay (01:05:50.074)
There you go. See, I had no idea they existed. So it shows how much I know. Well, awesome. Well, Scott, it has been a blast having you on these three episodes. And thank you for coming on the show, sharing your knowledge and stories and laughs and all that stuff. Obviously, you know, you and I have done a lot of diving together and it's always fun to catch up and talk about old times and plan for future times. You just invited me out on a trip that I can't make, unfortunately, but
But man, I'm excited to get back in the water together. And then, you know, our house is always open to come dive the kelp beds out here in Catalina. Those are some amazing, probably amazing photos and amazing video. I've seen some incredible of both. So yeah, come on out and get a break from that hot, hot Texas heat and enjoy some Southern California weather. It's been, I think on the surface 60s, mid 60s.
Scott (01:06:31.978)
Definitely need to do that, yeah. Haven't been out there yet.
Scott (01:06:40.92)
How cold is the water out there?
Jay (01:06:49.023)
I saw the other day, you know, mid to higher 50s, low 60s.
Scott (01:06:52.854)
Really? So there's a thermocline? Or is it like a gradual change?
Jay (01:06:56.07)
There is there is. It's a gradual change. It's not like the lake where you know, it's not necessarily immediate. I mean, you know, in the summer in the lake, it's like if you're in a wetsuit, it's like you know exactly when you hit that thermocline because it's like a five to 10 degree dip immediately. You're just like, Oh, now I'm cold. It feels nice. And I remember in the middle of the summer, that Texas heat, you would just be waiting for that thermocline because your body hasn't felt cool.
Scott (01:07:13.835)
Mm-hmm.
Jay (01:07:25.754)
for so long, like naturally cool. So, but yeah, that's, and then I think, I think, you know, it's a, fall is a pretty incredible time to dive out here as well. I'm still learning my way around here, but we'll plan those trips. But just want to say thank you for coming on the show. Again, if you want to reach out to Scott, maybe go shoot some photos with him, see some of his work, watch some of his YouTube videos, Scott, where can they find you?
Scott (01:07:51.89)
My YouTube channel is ScottBauerBelow and Instagram is the same thing.
Jay (01:07:57.526)
Yeah. So check out Scott, Scott Bauer below on Instagram or on his YouTube channel and reach out, let them know what you think about these episodes. Who knows if you're in Texas or Roatan or flower gardens or wherever you are, so you might be on the boat with Scott. So, uh, get to know him. Amazing person. Uh, first and foremost and a great diver, great photographer, and looking forward to Scott more of the things that you produce. I saw some of the photos from flower gardens in the video that you did about, uh,
the boat and the operation there and just really, really nice work. So share some of that stuff on, uh, on the, the dive table as well so that people can, can find you and, uh, would love to connect with you, but just thank you for being on the show and thanks for everything that you brought to the last three episodes.
Scott (01:08:43.074)
Sounds good. Well, thanks for having me.
Jay (01:08:46.376)
Any parting thoughts before we wrap this one up?
Scott (01:08:49.489)
No, no puns. No puns today.
Jay (01:08:52.214)
No puns today. All right. Well, thank you out there in the skew verse, uh, for joining us for this episode. And we hope you come back for the next episode of the dive table.
